It's that time of year (when or where ...) (2025)

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Sylvia_scj

Senior Member

Hangzhou

Mandarin

  • Nov 3, 2017
  • #1

Hi.

I came across this sentence on facebook today and was wondering why "where" was used instead of "when":
It's that time of year

where

pumpkin-flavoured people treats are everywhere!

Thank you.

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    Sylvia_scj

    Senior Member

    Hangzhou

    Mandarin

    • Nov 3, 2017
    • #3

    Thank you, sound shift. "people treats" was mentioned because the person who wrote this was going to talk about "pet treats".

    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • Nov 3, 2017
    • #4

    I recognize this use of "when/where". Now let's see if I can explain it.It's that time of year (when or where ...) (3)

    In casual modern American English, the two words "when" and "where" are used interchangeably as a conjunction introducing an independent clause describing (explaining) something mentioned before that in the sentence.

    If that was unclear, here are some examples where either "when" or "where" are used:

    1. Halloween is a holiday where/when kids dress in costumes and get candy from neighbors.
    2. It's the pre-Thankgsgiving season, when/where lots of stores sell pumpkin-flavored treats.
    3. True love is when/where you hold nothing back.
    4. We use both these words, when/where they introduce a descriptive clause.
    5. New Year's Eve is a holiday where/when you get a lot of drunk drivers. That's why I stay home.
    6. Origami? That's when/where you fold paper into animals.

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    e2efour

    Senior Member

    England (aged 79)

    UK English

    • Nov 3, 2017
    • #5

    The answer to the question is that when is used in the phrase

    at a time when

    and where in the phrase

    in a place where

    of in a situation where.

    These words are sometimes interchangeable, e.g. He was in the bar when the explosion occurred. But this is really in the bar at the time when ...

    If you can use these phrases, it is clear which of the words you should use.
    For example, He got up early that morning whereIt's that time of year (when or where ...) (5) the dawn chorus began or There was a large dog in the room whenIt's that time of year (when or where ...) (6)the barking was coming from.

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    Sylvia_scj

    Senior Member

    Hangzhou

    Mandarin

    • Nov 4, 2017
    • #6

    dojibear said:

    I recognize this use of "when/where". Now let's see if I can explain it.It's that time of year (when or where ...) (7)

    In casual modern American English, the two words "when" and "where" are used interchangeably as a conjunction introducing an independent clause describing (explaining) something mentioned before that in the sentence.

    If that was unclear, here are some examples where either "when" or "where" are used:

    1. Halloween is a holiday where/when kids dress in costumes and get candy from neighbors.
    2. It's the pre-Thankgsgiving season, when/where lots of stores sell pumpkin-flavored treats.
    3. True love is when/where you hold nothing back.
    4. We use both these words, when/where they introduce a descriptive clause.
    5. New Year's Eve is a holiday where/when you get a lot of drunk drivers. That's why I stay home.
    6. Origami? That's when/where you fold paper into animals.

    Thank you a lotIt's that time of year (when or where ...) (8)

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    Sylvia_scj

    Senior Member

    Hangzhou

    Mandarin

    • Nov 4, 2017
    • #7

    e2efour said:

    The answer to the question is that when is used in the phrase

    at a time when

    and where in the phrase

    in a place where

    of in a situation where.

    These words are sometimes interchangeable, e.g. He was in the bar when the explosion occurred. But this is really in the bar at the time when ...

    If you can use these phrases, it is clear which of the words you should use.
    For example, He got up early that morning whereIt's that time of year (when or where ...) (9) the dawn chorus began or There was a large dog in the room whenIt's that time of year (when or where ...) (10)the barking was coming from.

    Thank you so much It's that time of year (when or where ...) (11)

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